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> "Chuck" <chuckw417@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Take back some of Mr Bronson fat contract.. He looks terrible tonight
>> in the first inning. He is turning into a Eric Milton.
>>
>>
>
> While I would never suggest that Arroyo is on par with Milton (really,
is
> *anybody* that bad, aside from Josh Fogg?), the sheen has really started
> to
> come off Arroyo. He bought a lot of goodwill in Cincy by being
successful
> his first season and by being an interesting personality, but all the
> personality in the world won't save him if he really stinks now. Last
> year
> he was mediocre but you could maybe chalk that one up to just having a
> down
> year. If he regresses even further and continues the rest of the year
> like
> he's started then I think there'll be a lot of pressure on Cincy to get
> rid
> of him. Maybe his dreams of going back to Boston will come true!
>
> Honestly, with Cueto and Volquez doing well (so far) and guys like
Bailey,
> Belisle and eventually Thompson waiting to come along I don't see the
Reds
> being too patient Arroyo. The only good thing you can say about Arroyo
is
> that relative to the crazy deals being signed now, his $4.5 million
salary
> this year isn't crazy expensive. The problem for Arroyo is that guys
like
> Cueto, Bailey, Thompson, Belisle, etc, are going to be making league
> minimum or just a bit more so $4.5 million will seem a lot more
expensive
> by comparison.
>
> His "fat contract" doesn't seem so fat compared to what guys have signed
> for since Arroyo came to Cincy. I mean, Ted Lilly is making $8 million
> this year in Chicago. Gil Meche's infamous deal is paying him $11
million
> this year. Probably one of the more head-scratching signings of the
> offseason, the Angels are paying Jon Garland, he of the career 4.41 ERA
> and
> 1.37 WHIP, $12 million this year. And the active pitcher Arroyo most
> closely resembles, according to baseball-reference.com, is Jake
Westbrook
> who's making $10 million this year. So despite his really mediocre
> numbers, Arroyo would likely still get more than we're paying him this
> year
> if he was on the market again. That, of course, doesn't mean the Reds
> should keep him around if he continues to stink. On the contrary, they
> should deal him and tout his "affordable" contract to somebody needing
> pitching.
Dusty had him throw 116 pitches tonight == so I am guessing that Dusty's
plan is to get the money out of him by the pitch...
but yeah he seems pretty much a weak spot at this time
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