"David Short" <David.No.Short@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Bob Braun" <oxinfla@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Kevin McClave" <kmcclave@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:00:58 -0400, "Bob Braun"
>>> <oxinfla@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Can you be honest? Bottom of the ninth, two outs, game on the
>>>>line...........who would you rather have at the plate? Josh Hamilton
or
>>>>Adam Dunn?
>>>
>>> Can I be honest? Not sure I like the "tone" of that question, but...
>>
>> Can you be honest (unbiased) when using Adam Dunn in a comparison
>> situation?
>>
>> I asked, you answered as I expected. Needless to say we are in
COMPLETE
>> disagreenent.
>>
>> Are you saying then, IF.......big IF, you would have had the
op****tunity
>> to send Dunn in place of Hamilton for Volquez, you wouldn't have?
>
> Part of the difference in value between Dunn and Hamilton is in the
money
> they are owed. I wonder how much of that colors your opinon. If instead
of
> making the league minimum, the reds had Hamilton at the same price they
> have
> Dunn, then would you hold the same opinion?
Haven't seen Hamilton long enough to answer that one. The luxury is the
dollar figure. How about attenpting to throw a runner out at the plate?
How about stealing a base?
I didn't even factor in the money or additional 'tools' (I hate to use
that
poisonous term here). When you throw those things in, it makes it a
business no-brainer doesn't it?
> You postulate which I would rather have at the plate.....and I'm
honestly
> not sure, but I'll tell you that if instead we're in somebody else's
park
> and it's the bottom of the ninth with a runner on 3rd and there is a
> flyball
> hit to the outfield....in that case I would MUCH rather have Josh
Hamilton
> than Adam Dunn. I'm still not sure how much to trust the numbers and how
> much to trust my eye's on defense, but Adam is pretty bad out there.
>
> dfs
You can't trust the numbers on defense. You can't igonore them, but I
refuse to put as much stock in them as offensive numbers. You can't find
that Wrigley fly ball anywhere on a score sheet (except in Cueto's ERA).
We
could go back and find tons of others like that one. Couple that with
today's liberal, official scoring and it further skews the numbers.
On the overall defense, I see defininte improvement in Votto. His
mechanics
are much better. He still misplays a few, but he's doing much better.
Edwin? Who knows? I like Edwin and cheer for Edwin, but I'm ready to try
something else at 3B. Some days he's Brooks Robinson, some days he's
Brooke
****elds.
Keppinger is playing on a bum leg. But at 80%, he's better than the
alternatives. Phillips gets no respect for his glove. He's solid over
there. Bruce will be okay. I question if he can become a big league
centerfielder.
Catching is just okay with Ross.
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