On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:49:06 -0400, David Short
<David.no.Short@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Kevin McClave wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:57:18 -0700 (PDT), tom dunne <dunnetg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> On Jul 14, 12:15 pm, "Chuck" <chuckw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> Mr Weathers came in and worked his magic in the
>>>> ninth! I know I know he has been doing better but I still just don't
see it
>>>> with him. He is too easy to hit!
>>> Oh come on! Yesterday was the third straight game that Weathers
>>> pitched, and fourth game in five days!! Not only did Dusty run him out
>>> there yet again, he tried to get him to pitch *two* innings. I just
>>> looked it up: David Weathers has thrown 91 pitches in the last five
>>> days. That's ridiculous. It's no wonder Weathers started to fade in
>>> the 9th, it's a miracle he was still able to get the ball all the way
>>> to the catcher.
>>>
>>> If we're going to blame someone, blame Baker for mismanaging his
>>> bullpen and not the guy who is being pushed to the mound every
>>> freaking day.
>>
>> Weathers has never really gotten his due around here.
>>
>> Go find another 10 guys in all, of baseball who have been as consistent
>> and reasonably injury free as Weathers has been the past decade. That's
>> a long time to be a consistent, and as im****tantly present, Major
League
>> relief pitcher.
>
>Of coures Reds fans still think of Weathers as the bum who put up a 6.21
>ERA back in 98. Since then, as Kevin points out a couple of times every
>year, Weathers has been darn good.
>
>Let's see how we do in picking out relievers who've pitched well for 9
>years.
>
>Cordero does it.
Yes. Only made 47 appearances in 2001-2002 due to injury though.
>Mariano Rivera qualifies.
>Trevor Hoffman is cratering this year, but he's certainly had a period
>of consistent excellence.
Yes, though he got hurt and only pitched in 9 games in 2003.
>Guardado cratered last year, but he had such a stretch before that.
>
>F-Rod hasn't put up the years. That's a no.
>
>Todd Jones has been remarkably consistent, but he did have one bad year
>in the middle of it all. Nope.
>
>Bob Wickman works.
Not really. He missed all of 2003 and made fewer than 40 appearances on
either side of that in 2002 and in 2004.
>Isringhousen does too.
>
>Urbina rates but he's retired. Franco would work here as well.
>
>So, yeah. You can find these kind of guys, but they're usually stars.
>Look for older relievers who have closed and have not had a bad year in
>the last nine. They're not very many of them.
And as your list shows, many of them have been hurt for a significant
period of time. The lowest appearance total for Weathers since he was
with the Reds the first time was in Milwaukee in 1999 with 63 GP.
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