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Re: Game 13: The A's, aka Cliff Lee's whores

by thisplanetsux <thisplanetsux@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 25, 2008 at 08:37 AM

On Apr 25, 12:47 am, The Dave=A9 <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > thisplanetsux wrote:
> > > I disagree with your *****sment of his talent level, etc.
>
> > > His career 4.50+ ERA tells me all I need to know about his stuff, as
> > > does the fact he's given up more hits than IP in his career, while
> > > averaging 3.0 BB per nine innings without dominating strikeout
> > > numbers (2.2:1 ratio). He's a mediocre lefty who has given up 105
> > > HRs in only 750 career innings (i.e., 30+ per full season), has
> > > only three complete games in his career and has NEVER thrown a
> > > shutout.
>
> > BTW Kardex,  this last statement of yours is no longer true.  Lee just
> > manhandled the Royals tonight, tossing a complete game 3 hit shutout
> > with no walks and 9 strikeouts.
>
> God forbid that a player evolve and improve.

With pitchers it's almost always more a case of just getting healthy,
though adapting/evolving does come into play.  Even guys that are
steady and solid over a long period are usually pitching at below 100%
due to some nagging injury(s), but they simply pitch through it and
deliver good innings at 95% or whatever. I don't think Tim Hudson has
ever really been a 100% healthy guy.   Most other pitchers have had
only short spans, no more than a year or two tops, where they're
completely pain free and hitting on all cylinders.

But the reason this all came up was to establish that the A's did not
just lie down and stink the joint up when facing Lee.  I think if you
look at the current AL pitching leader boards, there is evidence to
suggest the A's, due to the luck of scheduling, have faced the
toughest AL pitching so far this year, and are quite possibly an even
better hitting club than we've seen.  They've faced Lee twice, plus
Greinke, plus King Felix, plus Bannister... Those guys are #1, #2, #3
and #6 in ERA in the AL (with Eveland at #4).  They've also face Dice
K twice, plus Carmona, plus Silva, plus Mar***, who are all sub-3.50
ERA guys in the top-20 of the AL.  And yet the A's are scoring runs
and winning games.
 




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Game 13: The A's, aka Cliff Lee's whores
Tonawanda Kardex <tona  2008-04-13 13:59:29 
Re: Game 13: The A's, aka Cliff Lee's whores
thisplanetsux <thispla  2008-04-13 14:46:00 
Re: Game 13: The A's, aka Cliff Lee's whores
Tonawanda Kardex <tona  2008-04-14 04:26:35 
Re: Game 13: The A's, aka Cliff Lee's whores
thisplanetsux <thispla  2008-04-15 01:18:03 
Re: Game 13: The A's, aka Cliff Lee's whores
Tonawanda Kardex <tona  2008-04-15 01:47:59 
Re: Game 13: The A's, aka Cliff Lee's whores
thisplanetsux <thispla  2008-04-24 22:22:39 
Re: Game 13: The A's, aka Cliff Lee's whores
=?iso-8859-1?Q?The_Dave=A  2008-04-25 07:47:23 
Re: Game 13: The A's, aka Cliff Lee's whores
thisplanetsux <thispla  2008-04-25 08:37:38 
Re: Game 13: The A's, aka Cliff Lee's whores
Tonawanda Kardex <tona  2008-04-25 12:52:30 

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