On Apr 18, 11:20 pm, Seapig <sea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Apr 18, 7:01 pm, Chris <> wrote:
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> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:27:20 -0800, Hoover <Hoo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >There is a silver lining to last night's 22-inning debacle.
>
> > >This game so Dramatically revealed that all the Pitching
> > >in the world will NOT win champion****ps without at least
> > >a little hitting to go with it.
>
> > >Kevin Towers and Sandy Alderson have to be looking
> > >now at trading some prospects for a Bat that will make
> > >a difference. That's why you stockpile young talent.
>
> > >Hoover
>
> > We have more hits than Arizona thus far into the season and they've
> > scored 43 more runs than we have. Unless the first 16 games have been
> > some sort of weird statistical freak show that will balance out a
> > whole bunch more in the long run, our season is already over. A pace
> > for 500 runs over the course of a season is not fixable with one or
> > two players being picked up here and there. Edmonds, Hairston,
> > McAnulty, Clark, and Iguchi are totally worthless.
>
> You're writing off a team that's 8-8? I think you're new around here,
> but have you ever gone by a different name, like maybe Iceberg or
> ScottW?
>
> > The owners promised they would be competitive and thanks to a weak
> > division the last few years, we've been that. Those days are gone.
>
> Those days have been gone for a few years. The West was the best
> division in the league last year, and the Pads were still competitive
> - they won more games last year than in any season since '98.
>
> > We
> > have great starting pitching, better than average relief pitching, but
> > no speed and certainly no power. There's no sense of excitement in the
> > stands when we come to the plate. We're used to hoping that we pitch a
> > shutout every five games and can scrap maybe four runs per game when
> > we don't.
>
> > No pitcher fears us, and that's why we have so many hits (singles).
> > There's no one in our lineup a pitcher wants to avoid. There's no 98
> > Greg Vaughn. There's no 96 Ken Caminiti. When's the last time we had a
> > guy hit even 35 home runs? We go nuts when our cleanup guy hits 100
> > RBI's, which is just pedestrian for that spot nowadays.
>
> It's pedestrian if you play half your games in one of the new
> bandboxes, like in Cincinnati or Philadelphia, but when Petco Park is
> home, hitting 30 HRs and driving in 100 runs, like Gonzalez did last
> year, is plenty impressive.
>
> I'm kind of a broken record on this topic, but as long as the Padres
> are calling Petco home, the offense is never going to be as bad as
> everybody thinks it is, and the pitching is never going to be as good
> as everybody thinks it is.
>
> > I love pitching, but when you can't easily post a healthy winning
> > record with a team era around 3.00, major changes must be made.
>
> > So far into this young season, the 08 Padres are just plain boring and
> > painful to watch...at least at the plate.
I want to second what Seapig says. It's like a reverse Coors Field
effect. Everyone thought the Rockies hitters were awesome and the
pitchers stunk. You have to apply context. Petco is a horrible
hitters park. The pitching is not as good as you think and the
hitting is better. You've got to look at the Park Factors when
evaluating your hitters and pitchers. Adrian Gonzalez was really good
last year and Webb may have deserved that Cy Young over Peavy.
Also hits and batting average are a poor way to judge a teams
offense. Extra base hits and walks are terribly im****tant to scoring
runs (both of these are much harder to do at Petco than almost
anywhere, certainly than Phoenix). You almost can't hope to score as
many runs as the DBacks.
****ning the Light,
Marty Winn
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